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May 19, 2015 7:29 PM

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SaintEmiya said:
Is it any wonder that Shirou is at his absoloute worst when he's with sakura? She's such an awful character she drags down those she is with around her.


FTFY
May 19, 2015 7:37 PM

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MightyM16 said:
SaintEmiya said:
Is it any wonder that Shirou is at his absoloute worst when he's with Rin? She's such an awful character she drags down those she is with around her.


FTFY


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Why shirou said those words to rin in the 13th episode i just don't understand...i don't see anything good in her..he put shiru and saber through hell in the 1st season..killing caster the only time when she was of some use...NEW FATE ROUTE ADAPTATION..I will think abott it after ubw ends..
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Definitely.
Screw DEEN.
Isayama Hajime should be awarded The Manga with The Highest Inconsistencies of Characters' Appearances.
He keeps performing multiple plastic surgeries on those Shingeki No Kyojin characters in a SINGLE chapter.
Yes, I've read up to the latest chapter of Shingeki No Kyojin manga.
Forced myself to read through the kidsketching chapters after the anime's ended. At least from now on, I only have to go through the hell once a month.
Patiently awaiting SNK TV/movie/OVA anime-sequel.
The 2015 SNK live-action movie would probably suck.
May 20, 2015 10:41 PM

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I do, especially if it's to be rewritten. Also, Tsukihime.
May 20, 2015 10:52 PM

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SaintEmiya said:
Is it any wonder that Shirou is at his absoloute worst when he's with saber? She's such an awful character she drags down those she is with around her.


Pretty sure it's the other way round. ~.~


And, lel, >drags them down

Totes. Whatever you think~

Also, becuz I'm evil like that






Now you won't be able to get through the page without seeing all these pics! MWAHAHAHA.


And you clearly haven't read the route 8D
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Jsmithmim said:
Why shirou said those words to rin in the 13th episode i just don't understand...i don't see anything good in her..he put shiru and saber through hell in the 1st season..killing caster the only time when she was of some use...NEW FATE ROUTE ADAPTATION..I will think abott it after ubw ends..
Shirou had crushes on Rin and Sakura before FSN even started and he was instantly smitten with Saber when they first met. Why is it so hard to accept for some shippers that Shirou can fall in love with other girls other than their favorite one?

And you have a weird definition of putting someone through hell. Rin saved Shirou's life with her century old trump card, even though she had no obligation to do that. Try to ignore your bias and see that every love interest has her own good qualities.
May 21, 2015 3:43 AM

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(I'm exaggerating for effect) but nah, Fate wasn't too bad. Just boring imo and Shirou really was at his worst in that route - just happened to be the route where he was with Saber... -. But she didn't let him grow as a person as much as Rin and Sakura, therefore I think she was not a good influence on him.
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mira-nyan said:

The best. Easily.

SaintEmiya said:
(I'm exaggerating for effect) but nah, Fate wasn't too bad. Just boring imo and Shirou really was at his worst in that route - just happened to be the route where he was with Saber... -. But she didn't let him grow as a person as much as Rin and Sakura, therefore I think she was not a good influence on him.

I disagree, UBW and HF had "help" in the form of
Fate did not have much involvement from those people. Actually most of the cast did not get involved much with Fate. Hooray for the intro route!
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I'd say Archer's talks in Fate helped Shirou as well.
Also Rin stays with him after Saber is gone so he's in good hands.
Saber really is useless/s
May 21, 2015 7:18 AM

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VarunaBles said:
mira-nyan said:

The best. Easily.

SaintEmiya said:
(I'm exaggerating for effect) but nah, Fate wasn't too bad. Just boring imo and Shirou really was at his worst in that route - just happened to be the route where he was with Saber... -. But she didn't let him grow as a person as much as Rin and Sakura, therefore I think she was not a good influence on him.

I disagree, UBW and HF had "help" in the form of
Fate did not have much involvement from those people. Actually most of the cast did not get involved much with Fate. Hooray for the intro route!


There was more Taiga in Fate though (ノ*゜▽゜*)
May 21, 2015 7:33 AM

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GARBrotato said:
I'd say Archer's talks in Fate helped Shirou as well.
Also Rin stays with him after Saber is gone so he's in good hands.
Saber really is useless/s

I agree, I can't stand useless characters.

Hey wait a minute, is that Lancer as your avatar?/s
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May 21, 2015 7:38 AM

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SaintEmiya said:
(I'm exaggerating for effect) but nah, Fate wasn't too bad. Just boring imo and Shirou really was at his worst in that route - just happened to be the route where he was with Saber... -. But she didn't let him grow as a person as much as Rin and Sakura, therefore I think she was not a good influence on him.


It's literally not her fault. It's her route's job to introduce Shirou as a character.

And it's about developing HER character, not his.



Also, do you know what 'good influence' means? Can't say any one in HF had a good influence on Shirou, considering what happened...
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May 21, 2015 7:47 AM

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GARBrotato said:
I'd say Archer's talks in Fate helped Shirou as well.



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Also Rin stays with him after Saber is gone so he's in good hands.

I agree. Her role may not be as much as the other 2 routes, but she's still a great friend to have.

GARBrotato said:
Saber really is useless/s

no u took me awhile to see that XD

MightyM16 said:
There was more Taiga in Fate though (ノ*゜▽゜*)

GODDAMMIT!
May 21, 2015 7:48 AM

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mira-nyan said:
Can't say any one in HF had a good influence on Shirou, considering what happened...
> Illya

Pls.

Mickdrew said:
GARBrotato said:
I'd say Archer's talks in Fate helped Shirou as well.
Also Rin stays with him after Saber is gone so he's in good hands.
Saber really is useless/s

I agree, I can't stand useless characters.

Hey wait a minute, is that Lancer as your avatar?/s
> Implying Lancer is anything but amazing and useful.

Pls.
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GARBrotato said:
mira-nyan said:
Can't say any one in HF had a good influence on Shirou, considering what happened...
> Illya

Pls.

Mickdrew said:

I agree, I can't stand useless characters.

Hey wait a minute, is that Lancer as your avatar?/s
> Implying Lancer is anything but amazing and useful.

Pls.


Lancer is only useful at being a bro and a manslut


However in battles not only he
best guy in UBW but he also was pretty irrelevant in the other routes HGW ¯_(ツ)_/
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GARBrotato said:
Mickdrew said:

I agree, I can't stand useless characters.

Hey wait a minute, is that Lancer as your avatar?/s
> Implying Lancer is anything but amazing and useful.

Pls.

Lancer is about as useful in the HGW as he would be in a grand prix ツ
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MightyM16 said:
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> Implying Lancer is anything but amazing and useful.

Pls.


Lancer is only useful at being a bro and a manslut


However in battles not only he
best guy in UBW but he also was pretty irrelevant in the other routes HGW ¯_(ツ)_/


Only in HF. Rin and Shirou would be dead as all hell in Fate and UBW if the bro hadn't graced them with his presence.
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MightyM16 said:

Lancer is only useful at being a bro and a manslut


However in battles not only he
best guy in UBW but he also was pretty irrelevant in the other routes HGW ¯_(ツ)_/


Pls.

Lancer is too OP thats why Nasu finds ridiculous ways of killing him.

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laidellent said:
MightyM16 said:

Lancer is only useful at being a bro and a manslut


However in battles not only he
best guy in UBW but he also was pretty irrelevant in the other routes HGW ¯_(ツ)_/


Pls.

Lancer is too OP thats why Nasu finds ridiculous ways of killing him.


Let's be serious


He's good in UBW though, but I myself mostly like him because of Hollow Ataraxia.
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Insertanamehere said:
laidellent said:


Pls.

Lancer is too OP thats why Nasu finds ridiculous ways of killing him.


Let's be serious


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GARBrotato said:
mira-nyan said:
Can't say any one in HF had a good influence on Shirou, considering what happened...
> Illya

Pls.


I repeat 'can't say any one in HF had a good influence on Shirou, considering what happened...'
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May 21, 2015 8:16 AM

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Insertanamehere said:

Let's be serious


He's good in UBW though, but I myself mostly like him because of Hollow Ataraxia.


I dunno, All Lancer has to do is get within >5 meters of him to kill him instantly. I would assume Gil would be pretty invested in keeping him at bay with Chains and GOB spam.

and the Chains should technically end Lancer straight away, so if he lasted halfa day that's pretty insane.
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laidellent said:
Insertanamehere said:

Let's be serious




C'mon, of course Gil was


Anyway, I would've liked to see their fight or at least part of it, that's something another work of the Fate route could've show us
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WrongPriest said:
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Let's be serious


He's good in UBW though, but I myself mostly like him because of Hollow Ataraxia.


I dunno, All Lancer has to do is get within >5 meters of him to kill him instantly. I would assume Gil would be pretty invested in keeping him at bay with Chains and GOB spam.

and the Chains should technically end Lancer straight away, so if he lasted halfa day that's pretty insane.


Pretty sure Gil
1) has A rank luck
2) Wouldn't get within 5 meters cos his weapon shooting wouldn't be as effective.
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MightyM16 said:

C'mon, of course Gil was


Anyway, I would've liked to see their fight or at least part of it, that's something another work of the Fate route could've show us

Well no, he doesn't have the capability to do that when summoned for the FGW, he's nerfed I believe, so Ea's max output is only around Excaliburs level.
May 21, 2015 8:24 AM

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mira-nyan said:
WrongPriest said:


I dunno, All Lancer has to do is get within >5 meters of him to kill him instantly. I would assume Gil would be pretty invested in keeping him at bay with Chains and GOB spam.

and the Chains should technically end Lancer straight away, so if he lasted halfa day that's pretty insane.


Pretty sure Gil
1) has A rank luck
2) Wouldn't get within 5 meters cos his weapon shooting wouldn't be as effective.


1) Doesn't work every time, does that mean he should let him use it on him?
2) wat?
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WrongPriest said:
Insertanamehere said:

Let's be serious


He's good in UBW though, but I myself mostly like him because of Hollow Ataraxia.


I dunno, All Lancer has to do is get within >5 meters of him to kill him instantly. I would assume Gil would be pretty invested in keeping him at bay with Chains and GOB spam.

and the Chains should technically end Lancer straight away, so if he lasted halfa day that's pretty insane.

Well I mean, no hate on Lancer, but Berserker is a stronger. faster servant and
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Insertanamehere said:
WrongPriest said:


I dunno, All Lancer has to do is get within >5 meters of him to kill him instantly. I would assume Gil would be pretty invested in keeping him at bay with Chains and GOB spam.

and the Chains should technically end Lancer straight away, so if he lasted halfa day that's pretty insane.

Well I mean, no hate on Lancer, but Berserker is a stronger. faster servant and


He's not faster.
He doesn't have arrow protection
He's a bigger target
Gil's NP counters Berserker's main NP
Serker had to protect Loli.

C'mon it's like you don't even play this Nasuverse game.
That's like saying Taiga>Shirou>Berserker because Taiga beats Shirou when they fought with posters in the prologue.
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WrongPriest said:
mira-nyan said:


Pretty sure Gil
1) has A rank luck
2) Wouldn't get within 5 meters cos his weapon shooting wouldn't be as effective.


1) Doesn't work every time, does that mean he should let him use it on him?
2) wat?


1) A rank luck, dude. No buts.
2) What I mean is; he can't actually fight well with his weapons, and he's against a Lancer. No matter how silly/not-serious he is, he wouldn't be dumb enough to get that close to him.
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As if luck isn't an RNG stat, Just because I have 600 luck doesn't mean I'm going to Crit on every strike.

Having A rank luck doesn't mean Gae Bolg will never hit, it's just the only way for it to miss. Saber isn't immune to Gae Bolg, she's lucky.

This is so dumb, I'm not saying Gil is going to get rofl stomped by Lancer, I'm just saying that perhaps he legitimately held off Gil for half a day. Give the poor dog that you Gilcock hungry sluts.
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Insertanamehere said:
MightyM16 said:

C'mon, of course Gil was


Anyway, I would've liked to see their fight or at least part of it, that's something another work of the Fate route could've show us

Well no, he doesn't have the capability to do that when summoned for the FGW, he's nerfed I believe, so Ea's max output is only around Excaliburs level.

Wow, seriously?

But isn't EA like EX rank while Excalibur was A++ rank?
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Not to shit on poor Herc but he really doesn't have any notable feats in F/SN so saying Gil turned him to swiss cheese isn't saying much.
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MightyM16 said:
Insertanamehere said:

Well no, he doesn't have the capability to do that when summoned for the FGW, he's nerfed I believe, so Ea's max output is only around Excaliburs level.

Wow, seriosuly?

But isn't EA like EX rank while Excalibur was A++ rank?
I think that was Caliburn.
And EA still rekt Excalibur pretty damn hard in Fate route, so maybe you're right.
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WrongPriest said:

C'mon it's like you don't even play this Nasuverse game.
That's like saying Taiga>Shirou>Berserker because Taiga beats Shirou when they fought with posters in the prologue.

Kk same speed
Ransa himself says that the protection won't work against "great noble phantasms".
MightyM16 said:

Well no, he doesn't have the capability to do that when summoned for the FGW, he's nerfed I believe, so Ea's max output is only around Excaliburs level.

Wow, seriosuly?

But isn't EA like EX rank while Excalibur was A++ rank?[/quote]
Max output =/= max power
It's AOE is about as big as Excaliburs tops, but the effect is much stronger.
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Insertanamehere said:
WrongPriest said:

He's not faster.
He doesn't have arrow protection
He's a bigger target
Gil's NP counters Berserker's main NP
Serker had to protect Loli.

C'mon it's like you don't even play this Nasuverse game.
That's like saying Taiga>Shirou>Berserker because Taiga beats Shirou when they fought with posters in the prologue.

Kk same speed
Ransa himself says that the protection won't work against "great noble phantasms".
That's not how the ability works iirc.
It only fails if the projectiles are too many to handle.
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WrongPriest said:
As if luck isn't an RNG stat, Just because I have 600 luck doesn't mean I'm going to Crit on every strike.

Having A rank luck doesn't mean Gae Bolg will never hit, it's just the only way for it to miss. Saber isn't immune to Gae Bolg, she's lucky.

This is so dumb, I'm not saying Gil is going to get rofl stomped by Lancer, I'm just saying that perhaps he legitimately held off Gil for half a day. Give the poor dog that you Gilcock hungry sluts.


Lol, I didn't say Gae Bolg wouldn't hit him. I just said A rank luck. I was just thinking that it'd graze his shoulder, or something, considering it will miss the heart.

MightyM16 said:

But isn't EA like EX rank while Excalibur was A++ rank?

The power can't be measured. And it doesn't matter whether it's EX or not, he's only using 1%(that's right, right?) of it's full power.


GARBrotato said:
Not to shit on poor Herc but he really doesn't have any notable feats in F/SN so saying Gil turned him to swiss cheese isn't saying much.


You say this like Cu did anything worthy of praise.


GARBrotato said:
I think that was Caliburn.
And EA still rekt Excalibur pretty damn hard in Fate route, so maybe you're right.


Caliburn it normal A.
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Max output =/= max power
It's AOE is about as big as Excaliburs tops, but the effect is much stronger.


AOE?
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AoE = Area of Effect.
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GARBrotato said:
That's not how the ability works iirc.
It only fails if the projectiles are too many to handle.


It fails if the projectile has an AOE affect, like many of Gils high ranking NP's do. They explode and cause big electric arcs and stuff.


mira-nyan said:
WrongPriest said:
As if luck isn't an RNG stat, Just because I have 600 luck doesn't mean I'm going to Crit on every strike.

Having A rank luck doesn't mean Gae Bolg will never hit, it's just the only way for it to miss. Saber isn't immune to Gae Bolg, she's lucky.

This is so dumb, I'm not saying Gil is going to get rofl stomped by Lancer, I'm just saying that perhaps he legitimately held off Gil for half a day. Give the poor dog that you Gilcock hungry sluts.


Lol, I didn't say Gae Bolg wouldn't hit him. I just said A rank luck. I was just thinking that it'd graze his shoulder, or something, considering it will miss the heart.


Says who? RNG mechanics? Reliable defense Gilgamesh..
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WrongPriest said:
mira-nyan said:

Lol, I didn't say Gae Bolg wouldn't hit him. I just said A rank luck. I was just thinking that it'd graze his shoulder, or something, considering it will miss the heart.


Says who? RNG mechanics? Reliable defense Gilgamesh..
Says me. Nasu isn't saying anything against it, and Gil is OP, so I am by default right.
:D

Wth's RNG?

Seriously guys, don't throw random phrases around that other won't understand ~.~
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WrongPriest said:
It fails if the projectile has an AOE affect, like many of Gils high ranking NP's do. They explode and cause big electric arcs and stuff.
Hold on, I thought Gil's NPs make boom boom explosions because impulse?

I mean I'm sure some of his weapons do indeed have these effects, but don't special abilities not matter when using the weapon as a projectile? Pretty sure that is the whole point of sword spams..
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mira-nyan said:
WrongPriest said:


Says who? RNG mechanics? Reliable defense Gilgamesh..
Says me. Nasu isn't saying anything against it, and Gil is OP, so I am by default right.
:D

Wth's RNG?

Seriously guys, don't throw random phrases around that other won't understand ~.~


Random number generator. I'm saying luck isn't reliable, it just increases your odds of not rolling snake eyes and taking a bullet through the side of your head during a friendly game of Russian roulette.

Higher Luck doesn't increase the distance Gae Bolg misses the heart (With EX rank perhaps he stabs himself?), hitting the heart is it's curse. Only with great luck can you avoid it.

GARBrotato said:
WrongPriest said:
It fails if the projectile has an AOE affect, like many of Gils high ranking NP's do. They explode and cause big electric arcs and stuff.
Hold on, I thought Gil's NPs make boom boom explosions because impulse?

I mean I'm sure some of his weapons do indeed have these effects, but don't special abilities not matter when using the weapon as a projectile? Pretty sure that is the whole point of sword spams..


I unno, I thought they exploded. If they don't then Lancers Arrow protection works at full strength.

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WrongPriest said:
mira-nyan said:
Says me. Nasu isn't saying anything against it, and Gil is OP, so I am by default right.
:D

Wth's RNG?

Seriously guys, don't throw random phrases around that other won't understand ~.~


Random number generator. I'm saying luck isn't reliable, it just increases your odds of not rolling snake eyes and taking a bullet through the side of your head during a friendly game of Russian roulette.

Higher Luck doesn't increase the distance Gae Bolg misses the heart (With EX rank perhaps he stabs himself?), hitting the heart is it's curse. Only with great luck can you avoid it.

GARBrotato said:
Hold on, I thought Gil's NPs make boom boom explosions because impulse?

I mean I'm sure some of his weapons do indeed have these effects, but don't special abilities not matter when using the weapon as a projectile? Pretty sure that is the whole point of sword spams..


I unno, I thought they exploded. If they don't then Lancers Arrow protection works at full strength.



Great luck = A rank luck. I don't see what's so hard to understand ~.~
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mira-nyan said:

AOE?

Area of effect. Blast Radius. Whatever.
GARBrotato said:
That's not how the ability works iirc.
It only fails if the projectiles are too many to handle.

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mira-nyan said:

Great luck = A rank luck. I don't see what's so hard to understand ~.~


Can Gilgamesh dodge Gae Bolg: Yes.
Will Gilgamesh always dodge Gae Bolg without fail: No.

Me neither.
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WrongPriest said:

Will Gilgamesh always dodge Gae Bolg without fail

Yes,for the very simple reason of "fuck you,i'm Gilgamesh"

He probably has some anti-causality reversal NP in his vault or something.
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One does not simply dodge Gae Bolg.

Gae Bolg just happens to miss you.
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mira-nyan said:
Lol, I didn't say Gae Bolg wouldn't hit him. I just said A rank luck. I was just thinking that it'd graze his shoulder, or something, considering it will miss the heart.
how hard is it to understand what he's saying? A rank luck does not guarantee that it will miss your heart. Only that there's a higher chance that it will.

Insertanamehere said:
Ransa himself says that the protection won't work against "great noble phantasms".
If Shirou can block Archer's sword spam, which is faster than Gil's, without protection, pretty sure Lancer could too
(i am joking)
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WrongPriest said:
As if luck isn't an RNG stat, Just because I have 600 luck doesn't mean I'm going to Crit on every strike.

Having A rank luck doesn't mean Gae Bolg will never hit, it's just the only way for it to miss. Saber isn't immune to Gae Bolg, she's lucky.

This is so dumb, I'm not saying Gil is going to get rofl stomped by Lancer, I'm just saying that perhaps he legitimately held off Gil for half a day. Give the poor dog that you Gilcock hungry sluts.


Too good.
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Pu55yDestr0yer said:

Insertanamehere said:
Ransa himself says that the protection won't work against "great noble phantasms".
If Shirou can block Archer's sword spam, which is faster than Gil's, without protection, pretty sure Lancer could too
(i am joking)

Fej pls
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